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Revision as of 11:27, 4 September 2008
[15:02] <hdu_hh> 1. Welcome new devs joining Mac OS X por [15:02] |<-- mikesic_ has left freenode (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [15:02] <ericb2> fne: hi :) [15:03] <hdu_hh> I'm not seing new nicknames in the list [15:03] <hdu_hh> so, its just us three? [15:03] <ericb2> hdu_hh: I'm preparing an action to attract new devs, but I need time to find resources [15:03] <hdu_hh> good! [15:04] -->| mikesic_ (n=mikesic@c-98-196-242-160.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #ooo_macport [15:04] <hdu_hh> hi mikesic_! [15:04] <hdu_hh> I think we can go to 2. Current state of the open child workspaces (CWS) [15:05] <ericb2> hdu_hh: yes, please [15:05] <hdu_hh> AFAIK all Aqua specific CWS are integrated, except CWS hotmac [15:05] <hdu_hh> I mean CWSses for OOo 3.0 [15:06] <hdu_hh> and CWS hotmac will most certainly get into the first RC [15:06] <ericb2> hdu_hh: good idea :) [15:06] -->| mikesic__ (n=mikesic@c-98-196-242-160.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #ooo_macport [15:07] <hdu_hh> yup :-) [15:07] <MechtiIde> shaunmcdonald, told something about crashes on Mac [15:07] <MechtiIde> today morning [15:07] <hdu_hh> hi MechtiIde! which crashes? [15:07] <hdu_hh> crashes when quiting OOo? [15:07] <MechtiIde> * shaunmcdonald is getting the blame for bugs in ooo from the founder again [15:08] <MechtiIde> I don't know more [15:08] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: can you explain more please ? [15:08] <MechtiIde> <shaunmcdonald> founder is stioll complaining about ooo crashing :-( [15:08] <hdu_hh> CWS hotmac fixes the crashes when Aqua-OOo was quiting [15:08] <MechtiIde> I asked for more information but get no answer [15:08] <ericb2> hdu_hh: I read you fixed an important and difficult to track pdf issue [15:09] <hdu_hh> ericb2: that was not a direct PDF issue [15:09] <hdu_hh> it was a general problem of the X11 port [15:09] <ericb2> hdu_hh: ok [15:09] <hdu_hh> yup, I felt "bloggy" on monday ;-) [15:10] <ericb2> no other open cws ? [15:10] <hdu_hh> currently getting OOo3 ready has the highest priority [15:11] <hdu_hh> there are cross-platform issues that affect the Mac too of course [15:12] |<-- mikesic has left freenode (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [15:12] <hdu_hh> and so the related CWS are not Aqua-specific anymore [15:13] <hdu_hh> e.g. vcl92 and vcl93 also benefit the Mac port [15:15] <hdu_hh> ericb2: I read that you are making a lot of progress with the remote control? [15:16] <ericb2> hdu_hh: yes. For me it works well. the code needs cleanup (removing debug ..and so on ) [15:16] <ericb2> hdu_hh: I fixed a silly bug with the Presenter Screen, and it works nicely with it now [15:16] <hdu_hh> ericb2: sounds good! [15:16] <ericb2> hdu_hh: the problem is, I have no news from Florian Heckl [15:17] <hdu_hh> ericb2: Juli+August are often used for vacation here [15:18] -->| mikesic (n=mikesic@c-98-196-242-160.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #ooo_macport [15:18] =-= Mode #ooo_macport +o mikesic by ChanServ [15:18] <hdu_hh> ericb2: so I wouldn't be surprised [15:18] <hdu_hh> hi mikesic! [15:18] <MechtiIde> what about issue 84427 [15:18] <IZBot> porting DEFECT CLOSED FIXED P3 help page cannot be printed using Apple key + P (aqua version) http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=84427 [15:18] <ericb2> hdu_hh: I'd like to have other opinions about code [15:18] <MechtiIde> IZBot, thanks [15:18] <IZBot> Always a pleasure helping you :-) [15:19] <ericb2> hdu_hh: pl is ok for the OpenOffice.org part, but I'd like to be sure I didn't introduce leaks or so with the remote part [15:19] <MechtiIde> It should to be reopen because it is back in OOO300_m3 [15:19] <hdu_hh> good idea. I think CL + PL should have a look. CL because of the multimedia-key things and PL for the input handling [15:20] -->| mikesic___ (n=mikesic@c-98-196-242-160.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #ooo_macport [15:20] <ericb2> hdu_hh: I didn't use the Multimedia keys in the first implementation [15:20] |<-- mikesic_ has left freenode (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [15:20] <ericb2> hdu_hh: no need at all [15:21] <ericb2> hdu_hh: I think the next implementation could use them, e.g. if we implement more features, like contextual menus ..and so on. But no, I don't see why use complicated things, when simple work well [15:21] <hdu_hh> I think CL's point was that using the MM-keys would be better [15:22] <ericb2> s/but no/but now/ [15:24] |<-- mikesic__ has left freenode (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [15:25] <ericb2> hdu_hh: just FYI , my hacked build has been downloaded ~ 600 times in two days, and so far, no problem. [15:25] <hdu_hh> ericb2: you have convinced me. I just don't think it is so urgent that it needs to be RfQ before PL+CL provided their feedback? [15:26] <ericb2> hdu_hh: just be sure we don't miss the gate for 3.1 [15:26] <hdu_hh> +1 [15:26] <ericb2> hdu_hh: other news: I started an effort for OpenGL transitions implementation [15:26] <ericb2> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Porting_-_OpenGL_transitions [15:26] <hdu_hh> cool! [15:27] <ericb2> and ssa confirmed me something is possible (I'm prudent) [15:27] <ericb2> hdu_hh: yes ;) [15:27] <ericb2> hdu_hh: I got everything, excepted the final vcl implementation, because of a last silly bug, nobody has a fix yet [15:27] <hdu_hh> what is the issue number? [15:27] <ericb2> hdu_hh: if close to you, ask ssa [15:28] * hdu_hh will do [15:28] <ericb2> hdu_hh: I started on the wiki only, and once I'll be sure I can see something for true, you can believe me, I'll create everything needed [15:29] <ericb2> hdu_hh: I'm waiting for ssa code too ( please remind him I'm impatient to read what he did, to understand I have wrong in my code ;) ) [15:29] * hdu_hh will do :-) [15:29] <ericb2> hdu_hh: thank you :-) [15:30] <hdu_hh> ericb2: he'll join the chat soonish [15:30] <ericb2> hdu_hh: great :-) [15:31] -->| ssa (n=ssa@nat/sun/x-25ba2a9e6d5b1056) has joined #ooo_macport [15:31] -->| mikesic_ (n=mikesic@c-98-196-242-160.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #ooo_macport [15:31] <ericb2> hdu_hh: last other little points: I'm helping liutao to resync python25 cws [15:31] <ericb2> hdu_hh: + I'll test seamonkey patch pierre pasteau created on Mac OS X [15:31] <ericb2> ssa: hey ! [15:32] <ericb2> ssa: glad to see you there :) [15:32] <ssa> ericb2: hi eric, hi everybody... [15:33] <ssa> ericb2: you're waiting for an update regarding the opengl transitions, right? [15:33] <ssa> ericb2: i stil didn't find the time to look into it... [15:33] <ericb2> ssa: in fact, I'd like to see how you implemented the thing in vcl and slideshow, because mine doesn't work [15:33] <ericb2> ssa: :/ [15:34] <ericb2> ssa: else, I have a complete set of patches for the rest [15:35] <ssa> ericb2: first I have to find it on my disk, wait a second... [15:35] * ericb2 waits [15:36] |<-- mikesic has left freenode (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [15:36] <ssa> ericb2: ok I basicaly changed OGLTrans_TransitionerImpl.cxx in slideshow [15:37] |<-- mikesic___ has left freenode (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [15:37] <ssa> ericb2: using an NSOpenGLView [15:37] <ericb2> ssa: I did that too [15:38] <ssa> ericb2: which is intialized with an NSOpenGLPixelFormat [15:38] <ericb2> ssa: and in vcl, you modified something ? [15:38] <ericb2> ssa: same here [15:38] <ericb2> ssa: did you simply consider your NSOpenGLView as an NSView ? [15:39] <ssa> ericb2: let me check, I remember something with the SalObject, there was some QuickTime specific stuff there [15:39] <ericb2> ssa: yes, about clipping [15:40] <ssa> ericb2: I currently cannot see any changes in VCL... did you change something ? what does not work for ou ? [15:40] <ericb2> ssa: can you pelase send me your OGLTrans_TransitionerImpl.cxx ? [15:41] <ericb2> ssa: I probably am close, but I don't see [15:41] <ericb2> ssa: I added NSOpenGLView* pOpenNSGLView in sysdata.hxx structure [15:42] <ericb2> ssa: s/pOpenNSGLView/pNSOpenGLView/ [15:42] <ssa> ericb2: sure I will send you the sources - I have to check what else did I change, and I'm not sure in what condition the current sources are [15:42] <ericb2> ssa: and I created an NSView ( the parent) , instantiated an NSOpenGLView, created the pixmap, the context and I did [pView addSubview:pNSOpenGLView [15:43] <ericb2> ssa: supposing, the addSubview will solve a lot of Apple only issues [15:43] <ericb2> ssa: thanks in advance :) [15:43] <ssa> ericb2: as i told you, i had some flickering after the transition was done. and then i tried to fix that, not sure if i broke something then [15:43] <ericb2> ssa: ok [15:44] <ericb2> ssa: I'll be really happy to see something :) [15:44] <ericb2> ssa: since the time I'm searching ... [15:44] -->| mikesic (n=mikesic@c-98-196-242-160.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #ooo_macport [15:44] =-= Mode #ooo_macport +o mikesic by ChanServ [15:46] <ericb2> ssa: details: I had to modify some types and fix some headers and co to make it buildable [15:47] <ericb2> ssa: what is probably wrong, is the GLWin structure. I probably was confused with the pWindow or something like that, and maybe that"s the root [15:47] <ssa> ericb2: ok, I just sent you the diff [15:47] <ericb2> ssa: got it ! Thanks :) [15:49] <ericb2> ssa: i didn't use superView method [15:50] <ericb2> ssa: thanks a lot, I'll try imediately, [15:50] |<-- mikesic_ has left freenode (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [15:50] <ericb2> ssa: what method do you prefer if I want to keep you informed ? Mail ? [15:50] <ssa> ericb2: ok, i just see some debugging stuff that should be deleted, in OGLTransitionerImpl::disposing() I'll change that and send another diff [15:51] <ssa> ericb2: yes, mail is fine [15:51] <ericb2> ssa: ok, I'll use mail :-) [15:51] <hdu_hh> so, are we already in 3. Roundtable? [15:51] <ssa> ericb2: unless somebody else wants to dive in and solve the flickering issue... [15:51] <ericb2> hdu_hh: oops, sorry, I was so happy, that I forgot it was meeting :) [15:52] <ericb2> ssa: I'll search, but I'm not a guru .. [15:52] <hdu_hh> no problem, I was just wondering :-) [15:54] <hdu_hh> does anyone have something else for the round table? [15:55] <hdu_hh> no? [15:56] <ericb2> hdu_hh: not me :) [15:56] <hdu_hh> I'm closing todays meeting then.