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[15:39] <louis_to> and, I have been in discussions (yesterday) again with Seneca | [15:39] <louis_to> and, I have been in discussions (yesterday) again with Seneca | ||
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+ | [15:40] <louis_to> I'll give an update later on today... vacation, alas, over with :-/ | ||
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+ | [15:40] >louis_to< : the begining of the meeting http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Previous_Education_Meetings_logs/ | ||
+ | January_2008/4th_January | ||
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+ | [15:40] <craigaa> :-) | ||
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+ | [15:41] <ericb2> I propose to continue with Point 3 of the meeting, and discuss the pobjectives on the mailing list ( dev@educ )? | ||
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+ | [15:41] <rbircher> +1 | ||
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+ | [15:42] <njeudy> ok | ||
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+ | [15:42] <ericb2> Point 3 is website | ||
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+ | [15:42] <ericb2> njeudy, rbircher ? | ||
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+ | [15:42] <cemoi> hello | ||
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+ | [15:43] <rbircher> I write a mail about the content | ||
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+ | [15:43] <njeudy> I propose à solution (javascript table) to list project for exemple: http://education.openoffice.org/test/tools_index.html | ||
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+ | [15:43] <ericb2> cemoi: hello :) | ||
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+ | [15:43] <njeudy> and i would like to now if it's good for you or not :) | ||
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+ | [15:44] <cemoi> meeting time? | ||
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+ | [15:44] >cemoi< c'est commence depuis 44 minutes | ||
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+ | [15:44] <rbircher> http://education.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=198 | ||
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+ | [15:45] <rbircher> With no answares | ||
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+ | [15:46] <louis_to> rbircher: I am almost fully back, and so will be able to be more engagé. ... | ||
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+ | [15:48] <asrail> njeudy: That javascript table is nice, except for being small | ||
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+ | [15:48] <njeudy> rbircher: do you want that I create base html file you propose ? | ||
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+ | [15:51] <Remaille> same as asrail | ||
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+ | [15:51] <rbircher> For the database I planed a Service | ||
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+ | [15:52] <asrail> We could put more content on the sides of that table and doesn't use a scroll for that | ||
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+ | [15:52] <rbircher> Stefan will finde a place in the next time | ||
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+ | [15:53] <enri> sorry i cannot answer before browsing the page | ||
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+ | [15:54] <njeudy> asrail: I can made it bigger :) | ||
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+ | [15:56] <enrica> see you | ||
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+ | [15:56] * enrica (n=limousin@82.58.149.27) has left #education.openoffice.org | ||
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+ | [15:56] <asrail> njeudy: Indeed. I suggest to use the white-space at left of the table for some content, to avoid much scrolling on the page | ||
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+ | [15:57] <asrail> I'm sorry I'll have to leav soono | ||
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+ | [15:57] <njeudy> asrail: yes i will do this :) | ||
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+ | [15:58] <rbircher> njeudy, let us talk a other time only about the Website | ||
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+ | [15:58] <rbircher> We most find a date for it | ||
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+ | [15:59] <asrail> bye all | ||
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+ | [15:59] <rbircher> Ok, next point? | ||
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+ | [15:59] <njeudy> ok | ||
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+ | [16:00] <rbircher> ericb2, | ||
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+ | [16:02] <njeudy> ericb2: is not here :) | ||
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+ | [16:03] <njeudy> for the next point is for team presentation | ||
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+ | [16:04] <rbircher> Yes | ||
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+ | [16:06] <njeudy> I could be a good idea to have a web page with project team :) | ||
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+ | [16:07] <rbircher> Is planed in the Webconcept | ||
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+ | [16:07] * enri has quit () | ||
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+ | [16:11] <njeudy> rbircher: do you know the next point ? | ||
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+ | [16:12] <rbircher> Misc | ||
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+ | [16:12] <njeudy> for project team, we need some information to describe person .. | ||
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+ | [16:15] <cemoi> What kind of information? | ||
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+ | [16:20] <rbircher> Next meeting? | ||
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+ | [16:21] <rbircher> Next week, same Time same houer, same day | ||
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+ | [16:21] <rbircher> Freyday 11th 14:00 UTC | ||
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Latest revision as of 18:18, 24 March 2010
[14:58] <ericb2> Let's start ?
[14:59] <lgodard> tools for teachers may interrest other categories
[14:59] <rbircher> Yes, meeting time
[14:59] * lgodard goes back in reading mode
[14:59] <ericb2> Agenda for 4th of January 2008 meeting
[14:59] <ericb2> 1. Welcome people and devs joining Education project
[14:59] <ericb2> 2. Objectives for Education project, for the Year 2008
[14:59] <ericb2> 3. Website
[14:59] <ericb2> 4. Education Team
[14:59] <ericb2> 5. Misc
[15:00] * ericb2 sees new people on the channel, and they are invited to present themselves :)
[15:00] * asrail (i=root@manchester.dreamhost.com) has joined #education.openoffice.org
[15:00] <ericb2> and Happy New Year 2008 to all !!
[15:00] <asrail> happy new year
[15:00] <rbircher> Yes, happy new year et all
[15:01] <ericb2> asrail: same for you :)
[15:01] <njeudy> happy new year ;)
[15:02] <ericb2> the first point is always dedicated to newcomers. Any around ?
[15:02] <sankarshan> in the event you haven't figured it out /me is sankarshan and sm|CPU and sm|test-box are the rest of the evil triplet
[15:02] sankarshan sm|CPU sm|test-box
[15:02] <ericb2> sankarshan: ;-)
[15:03] <asrail> If you count me, as it's the first time I could join the IRC meeting
[15:03] <ericb2> asrail: be welcome !
[15:03] <asrail> thanks
[15:03] <craigaa> greetings, all. I hope everyone had a joyful new year. Let's make 2008 even better.
[15:04] <ericb2> craigaa: be welcome too :-)
[15:04] <ericb2> craigaa , asrail : may I ask you to present yourself shortly ?
[15:04] <rbircher> We are a load today :-)
[15:05] <asrail> I'm Caio Tiago Oliveira, working on the OOo project mainly on QA, since 2004. I'm co-lead of the qa.openoffice.org project, student at Federal University of Bahia, Brazil.
[15:05] <asrail> Computing Science student.
[15:06] <asrail> I've joined the educ project for a year or so, but it was quiet until some months ago.
[15:06] <craigaa> I am Craig Adams from Durban, South Africa. Have been involved with OOo for a long time now, but have been pretty quiet for a while. I am, amongst other things, the Marcon for ZA.
[15:08] <rbircher> Welcome to south Africa and to Brazil
[15:08] <ericb2> asrail craigaa : this is quite interesting. Education project is proud to see people like you there. thanks for joining, and be welcome !
[15:09] <asrail> ;)
[15:09] <ericb2> other new comers ?
[15:09] <ericb2> Next point ?
[15:09] <rbircher> Yes
[15:09] <ericb2> 2. Objectives for Education project, for the Year 2008
[15:10] <ericb2> This is a summary of http://ooo-education.blogspot.com/2008/01/first-results-for-education-project.html
[15:10] <ericb2> and presented differently
[15:10] <ericb2> I proposed 5 points, from A to E
[15:10] <ericb2> A) Structure Education Project
[15:10] <ericb2> Create the association ( EducOOo )
[15:10] <ericb2> Comments: status are ok, and everything will be confirmed newt week (last review from Estelle Chardon needed). Some potential sponsors already asked
[15:11] <ericb2> Volunteer(s): ericb, other ?
[15:12] <ericb2> in the same point :
[15:12] <ericb2> Create Education Project Team
[15:12] <ericb2> Comments: started on the wiki. Some photos + informations are needed
[15:12] <ericb2> Volunteers: njeudy, rbircher ?
[15:12] <ericb2> Other volunteers ?
[15:13] <ericb2> other in the same point :
[15:13] <ericb2> Define the exact role of Education Project inside OpenOffice.org project, and create connexions with other projects
[15:13] <ericb2> Comments: Education project is a central project, because interacting with Marketing, Documentation, Extensions, User Experience and development projects
[15:13] <ericb2> Both work together and share/define precisely tasks and skills will be mandatory
[15:13] <ericb2> Volunteer(s) for the task :
[15:15] <njeudy> ericb2: i have to finish web site and project team before :)
[15:15] <ericb2> njeudy: ok. This is for 2008, say first half 2008. Is it ok ?
[15:15] <sankarshan> ericb2: and getting some buy-in in terms of specific tasks other such projects expect from this project and vice-versa
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[15:16] <ericb2> sankarshan: yes, cooperate
[15:16] sankarshan sm|CPU sm|test-box
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[15:16] <sankarshan> ahh that was the word I was looking for when I blogged
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[15:16] <ericb2> sankarshan: after all, we are a community ;)
[15:16] * ericb2 hides
[15:17] <ericb2> Second part is
[15:17] <sankarshan> ericb2: that's a loaded word as I learn each day ;)
[15:18] <ericb2> B) Improve Visibility
[15:18] <ericb2> Create a strong network of contacts with Education world
[15:18] <ericb2> Comments: a try is started with France. See http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Fr-EDUCATION#Correspondants_Locaux
[15:19] <ericb2> This is a common task, mainly for french contributors, but all contributions are welcome
[15:19] <rbircher> In this point, France and China are pionier
[15:20] <ericb2> rbircher: indeed. But would be great to see the same for Germany, China ..etc
[15:20] <sankarshan> soon there will be India (/me detaches, goes $HOME and draws up plans of world domination)
[15:20] sankarshan sm|CPU sm|test-box
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[15:20] ChanServ craigaa
[15:20] <ericb2> Other point in B :
[15:20] <ericb2> Events: list of events ? + find resources
[15:20] <ericb2> Communicate: important mailing lists ( educ dedicated in several countries) common blog ( other people interested ? )
[15:20] <ericb2> Volunteer(s) for the task :
[15:21] <ericb2> events are important, to meet important people we cannot attend the rest of the year. Louis is a great ambassador for that btw
[15:21] <rbircher> We can create a press information?
[15:21] <ericb2> rbircher: why not
[15:22] <ericb2> rbircher: are you volunteer ?
[15:22] <craigaa> rbircher: what kind of press information are ou thinking of?
[15:22] <rbircher> I will talke abaut with florian
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[15:23] <ericb2> rbircher: yes, marketing project will certainly help
[15:23] <asrail> I can't volunteer to organize the events, but I can help in the communication
[15:23] <ericb2> asrail: that"s ok for me
[15:24] <rbircher> enri hello
[15:24] <enri> hi to everyone
[15:24] <asrail> hi
[15:24] <rbircher> are you new too?
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[15:24] <enri> yes first time
[15:24] <ericb2> asrail: I have written your nick name as volunteer :-)
[15:24] <asrail> ok
[15:24] <ericb2> enri: be welcome on board :)
[15:24] <enri> I hope I can do something
[15:25] <ericb2> For the one who missed the begining, the log is : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Previous_Education_Meetings_logs/January_2008/4th_January
[15:25] <rbircher> Welcome to the meeting. Who you living?
[15:25] <enri> thank you, I'm not great in writing english
[15:25] <ericb2> ( I'll complete is regularly )
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[15:26] <enri> I'm from Italy teacher in secondary school
[15:27] <ericb2> enri: nice to see Italien join. Do you use OpenOffice.org in your courses ?
[15:27] <rbircher> enri, Nice, thanks for join use
[15:28] <rbircher> we can continue the meeting? ericb2
[15:28] <ericb2> rbircher: sure
[15:28] <ericb2> C) Analyse OpenOffice.org use in Education system
[15:28] <ericb2> Currently, there is:
[15:28] <ericb2> - low acceptance is all education systems
[15:28] <ericb2> - important issues for teachers to be fixed
[15:28] <ericb2> - intensive lobbying from Microsoft
[15:28] <ericb2> everybody is welcome to help
[15:29] <craigaa> not to mention their "educational software" grant programmes
[15:29] <enri> the same in italy
[15:29] <ericb2> craigaa enri yes , unfortunaly
[15:29] <Remaille> yes "éducate for the future"
[15:29] <Remaille> (in France)
[15:30] <ericb2> do people agree with first objectives for 2008 ?
[15:30] <njeudy> ericb2: can we have a good list of issue for teachers ?
[15:30] <Remaille> njeudy, in the wiki
[15:30] <ericb2> njeudy: in French ; http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Fr-EDUCATION#TODO
[15:31] <enri> thank you
[15:31] <rbircher> Can anyone translate in English
[15:31] <ericb2> rbircher: the same is there :
[15:31] <enri> that's a great idea
[15:31] <ericb2> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project#Todo
[15:31] <rbircher> ah ok ericb2
[15:32] <ericb2> rbircher: you're welcome :)
[15:32] <ericb2> sorry if the english version is not as complete as expected, but I did my best :)
[15:32] <ericb2> Next point ( D) is :
[15:32] <ericb2> D) Improve Content
[15:32] <ericb2> Provide:
[15:32] <ericb2> - pedagogical tools,
[15:32] <ericb2> - howtos for migrations,
[15:32] <ericb2> - OpenOffice.org installation in schools
[15:32] <ericb2> + ...
[15:32] <ericb2> Website : localize, add a database for tools, create links,
[15:32] <ericb2> Volunteer(s): njeudy, rbircher, other(s) ?
[15:33] <Remaille> me
[15:33] <Remaille> for the content
[15:33] <rbircher> Nice Remaille
[15:33] <ericb2> Remaille: I'll add you as volunteer :)
[15:33] <njeudy> what do yoou think of http://education.openoffice.org/test/tools_index.html (javascript table) ?
[15:33] <rbircher> Only french or english too
[15:34] <ericb2> njeudy: next point
[15:34] <njeudy> oups :)
[15:34] <ericb2> I'll finish with E, about development part
[15:34] <ericb2> E) Development
[15:34] <ericb2> First half 2008 :
[15:34] <ericb2> Start the following tasks :
[15:34] <ericb2> Help fixing important issues (e.g. the sadly well known issue 972 ), write specs
[15:34] <ericb2> Propose applications ( bugs to be fixed, new features, write extensions ..etc)
[15:34] <ericb2> Find peers teacher/student
[15:34] <ericb2> Connect with other projects, and define a pool of devs and resources: create the role of "edu-contact" in other projects ? ( as dedicated developer )
[15:34] <ericb2> Separate tools learning and pure code learning
[15:34] <ericb2> Provide courses as school cases of applications or writing code ( existing cases)
[15:34] <ericb2> I'm volunteer, as developer
[15:35] <ericb2> this is the "code oriented " part
[15:35] <IZBot> Formula editor ENHANCEMENT STARTED P3 Alignment of baselines of formula and text in writer http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/ show_bug.cgi?id=972
[15:35] <Remaille> I'm volunteer, as promoter
[15:35] <ericb2> Remaille: ok, noticed :)
[15:35] <Remaille> especially i SW of france
[15:36] <ericb2> Second half 2008 : to be defined later
[15:36] <ericb2> That's all for 2008 objectives
[15:36] <ericb2> Sorry for being as long. Any questions ?
[15:36] <enri> I'm volunteer too as promoter, may be something else but just take time for understand
[15:37] <ericb2> enri: for D part or E ?
[15:37] <enri> not now
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[15:37] <asrail> ericb2: educ-role would be content developer or effectively a developer?
[15:37] <rbircher> ericb2, I think, thats a good roadmap
[15:37] <ericb2> enri: it is up to you
[15:37] <enri> d please
[15:37] <ericb2> asrail: developer, for code
[15:38] <craigaa> greetings louis_to
[15:38] <ericb2> asrail: e.g. trace, fix a bug, in a dedicated domain, skill ..
[15:38] <louis_to> hi craig, and happy new year!
[15:38] <craigaa> louis_to: 2u2
[15:38] <asrail> I got it
[15:38] <ericb2> louis_to: Happy New Year to you !
[15:39] <louis_to> hi eric, yes, same to you
[15:39] <louis_to> btw, all, lots of interesting discussions on the google summmer of code list on google
[15:39] <louis_to> relating to education in post-secondary institutions
[15:39] <rbircher> louis_to, happy new year to you
[15:39] <louis_to> we might see a lot of action soon
[15:39] <ericb2> louis_to: thanks for the information
[15:39] <louis_to> and, I have been in discussions (yesterday) again with Seneca
[15:40] <louis_to> I'll give an update later on today... vacation, alas, over with :-/
[15:40] >louis_to< : the begining of the meeting http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Previous_Education_Meetings_logs/ January_2008/4th_January
[15:40] <craigaa> :-)
[15:41] <ericb2> I propose to continue with Point 3 of the meeting, and discuss the pobjectives on the mailing list ( dev@educ )?
[15:41] <rbircher> +1
[15:42] <njeudy> ok
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[15:42] <ericb2> Point 3 is website
[15:42] <ericb2> njeudy, rbircher ?
[15:42] <cemoi> hello
[15:43] <rbircher> I write a mail about the content
[15:43] <njeudy> I propose à solution (javascript table) to list project for exemple: http://education.openoffice.org/test/tools_index.html
[15:43] <ericb2> cemoi: hello :)
[15:43] <njeudy> and i would like to now if it's good for you or not :)
[15:44] <cemoi> meeting time?
[15:44] >cemoi< c'est commence depuis 44 minutes
[15:44] <rbircher> http://education.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=198
[15:45] <rbircher> With no answares
[15:46] <louis_to> rbircher: I am almost fully back, and so will be able to be more engagé. ...
[15:48] <asrail> njeudy: That javascript table is nice, except for being small
[15:48] <njeudy> rbircher: do you want that I create base html file you propose ?
[15:51] <Remaille> same as asrail
[15:51] <rbircher> For the database I planed a Service
[15:52] <asrail> We could put more content on the sides of that table and doesn't use a scroll for that
[15:52] <rbircher> Stefan will finde a place in the next time
[15:53] <enri> sorry i cannot answer before browsing the page
[15:54] <njeudy> asrail: I can made it bigger :)
[15:56] <enrica> see you
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[15:56] <asrail> njeudy: Indeed. I suggest to use the white-space at left of the table for some content, to avoid much scrolling on the page
[15:57] <asrail> I'm sorry I'll have to leav soono
[15:57] <njeudy> asrail: yes i will do this :)
[15:58] <rbircher> njeudy, let us talk a other time only about the Website
[15:58] <rbircher> We most find a date for it
[15:59] <asrail> bye all
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[15:59] <rbircher> Ok, next point?
[15:59] <njeudy> ok
[16:00] <rbircher> ericb2,
[16:02] <njeudy> ericb2: is not here :)
[16:03] <njeudy> for the next point is for team presentation
[16:04] <rbircher> Yes
[16:06] <njeudy> I could be a good idea to have a web page with project team :)
[16:07] <rbircher> Is planed in the Webconcept
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[16:11] <njeudy> rbircher: do you know the next point ?
[16:12] <rbircher> Misc
[16:12] <njeudy> for project team, we need some information to describe person ..
[16:15] <cemoi> What kind of information?
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[16:20] <rbircher> Next meeting?
[16:21] <rbircher> Next week, same Time same houer, same day
[16:21] <rbircher> Freyday 11th 14:00 UTC