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[15:19] <Dyrcona> If anyone has suggestions, I'm open, but I had a couple of ideas that may already be addressed in IZ. | [15:19] <Dyrcona> If anyone has suggestions, I'm open, but I had a couple of ideas that may already be addressed in IZ. |
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[15:02] <hdu_hh> Meeting? [15:02] <fne> meeting [15:02] <hdu_hh> just us two? [15:02] <hdu_hh> PL should be back soon... [15:03] <fne> okay [15:03] <Dyrcona> I'm here with questions that could until the round table or after. [15:03] * obr is here either [15:04] <hdu_hh> Lets start then with 1. Welcome new developers [15:05] <hdu_hh> none? [15:05] <hdu_hh> 2. state of open CWSses [15:05] <hdu_hh> vcl30showstop1..3 have been integrated [15:06] <hdu_hh> impress151 which is supposed to fix the infamous bullet problems is in OOO300_m2 too [15:07] <hdu_hh> vcl30stop4 which has an important crash fix is in QA [15:08] <hdu_hh> any other Aqua related CWSses that I forgot to mention? [15:08] <fne> none that I know of [15:09] <hdu_hh> BTW: I heard the famous maccrashrep CWS is in [15:09] <fne> true, but I haven't tested that yet [15:09] <hdu_hh> this will hopefully change crash issues from half-rumours to 100% facts [15:10] <fne> definitely [15:10] <hdu_hh> I'm really looking forward to this :-) [15:10] <fne> you're looking forward to crashes ;-) [15:10] <fne> ? [15:11] <hdu_hh> I'm looking forward to 100% facts instead of half-rumours [15:11] <fne> true [15:11] <hdu_hh> AFAIK there seems to linger one remaining major crash issue 92388 [15:11] <IZBot> framework DEFECT NEW P1 Application Frame crashes after closing of window http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=92388 [15:12] <hdu_hh> which seems to happen mostly on OSX10.4 [15:12] <hdu_hh> but not on Sun provided builds [15:12] <hdu_hh> I'd really like to have a good backtrace for this one [15:13] <hdu_hh> instead of "crash in frame 21 of libsfx.dylib+1234556 bytes" [15:14] <hdu_hh> welcome back PhilippL: we are about to close CWS-news, do you have anything to add to this? [15:15] <PhilippL> nope [15:15] * Dyrcona is on phone. [15:15] <hdu_hh> PhilippL: your CWS printerpullpages already looks great! [15:16] <PhilippL> It just doesn't wok yet ;-) [15:16] <hdu_hh> 3. Recent Apple Remote implementation progress : help needed [15:16] <hdu_hh> I think ericb2 mentioned he couldn't make it to todays meeting [15:17] <hdu_hh> so we should probably skip this item unless someone can provide some details here [15:17] <hdu_hh> anyone? [15:18] <hdu_hh> 3. 2. 1. skipping to [15:18] <hdu_hh> 4. roundtable [15:19] <hdu_hh> Dyrcona: are you ready? You mentioned you had something to discuss? [15:19] <Dyrcona> ok [15:19] <Dyrcona> i've been looking for ways for me to help out with the Mac port. [15:19] <Dyrcona> If anyone has suggestions, I'm open, but I had a couple of ideas that may already be addressed in IZ. [15:20] <hdu_hh> great! [15:20] <Dyrcona> 1. I was thinking it would be good to make the preferences on Mac store like other Mac applications in a property list. [15:21] <Dyrcona> Oh, I guess I should mention most of these would be goals for a release past 3.0, since 3.0 is closed for new features. [15:21] <Dyrcona> 2. The SDK/URE on Mac OS X. (This is big, probably.) [15:22] <PhilippL> Dyrcona: what's the gain ? Currently we store preferences in an xml registry (similar to firefox and other cross platform tools). What is the advantage of changing to a system dependant API ? [15:23] <PhilippL> SDK/URE: you should talk to Jürgen Schmidt (jsc). He's making that work. [15:23] <Dyrcona> Well, one gain that I see is you could set configuration from the command line with the defaults command. [15:23] <PhilippL> That does what ? [15:24] <Dyrcona> It allows for "hidden" configuration for more advanced features, mainly. [15:25] <Dyrcona> You could also edit the configuration with the Mac's property list editor. [15:26] <PhilippL> Currently setting to factory defautlts would be "rm -rf ~/Library/Application\ Support/OpenOffice.org/3". However that sets everything back to default. I don't know about the mac preferences I must confess. [15:26] <PhilippL> The latter point would be a plus. [15:26] <PhilippL> However I'd rather someone wrote an editor for our configuration; that would work on all platforms. [15:28] <Dyrcona> Ok. I won't pursue it too deeply, then, thought I still might take a look just to see on my personal copy. [15:28] <PhilippL> Oh, whatever pleases you most, of course. [15:28] <obr> There were also ideas to store our configuration inside the Windows Registry, so there must be some point in using native configuration backends. [15:28] <Dyrcona> As for the SDK/URE, I'd like to help with that, so I'll contact Jürgen. [15:29] <PhilippL> Just for the main trunk I'd rather not complicate matters unncessarily, that is if there is no clear gain. Perhaps I'm wrong. [15:29] <Dyrcona> Does anyone know if the SDK is supposed to work with 3.0 when it is released? [15:29] <PhilippL> The SDK is definitely something that needs more love I think :-) [15:30] <PhilippL> It currently works "sort of". I think it will be released for the mac, too, however there are open points. [15:30] <Dyrcona> PL: I agree about not cluttering the trunk. I was just thinking that making the config more like other Mac applications would be a gain, but perhaps a minor one. [15:30] <Dyrcona> I have been playing with the SDK and DEV300_m29 and there it works rather well, IF OO.o is already open. [15:31] <PhilippL> E.g. there is a printing example that deadlocks since aqua printing happens in the main thread only. [15:35] <PhilippL> Anything else to discuss ? [15:37] <Dyrcona> Nothing else from me at this time. I'll bother Jürgen about what needs work in the SDK. [15:37] <PhilippL> Then I guess that's it for today ? [15:38] <PhilippL> Oh, one thing, I won't be here the next three weeks (I'll be back on the eleventh) [15:41] <hdu_hh> The meeting log is available at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Log_Mac_Meeting_August_13th_2008